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Kerried Away by jollyjack Kerried Away by jollyjack
I'm constantly astounded by how bat-sh*t crazy politicians actually are.
We all know perfectly well that, after the Iraq debacle, the rest of the world doesn't trust the West. And quite rightly. As far as they're concerned, we're a bunch of bloodthirsty war-mongers that spin lies to justify the invasion of other countries. Some call us "Those who drink blood and oil" (which is so f**king poetic I'm going to have to plagiarise it at some point).
In light of that, you'd think the U.S. might, possibly, wait for U.N. collected evidence (seen by the rest of the world as impartial) to be analysed and presented, before trying to start World War 3?
The British PM was all ready to drag us along, but thankfully The House of Commons gave him a slap and asked "What the hell are you doing?!".
If action is going to be taken in that region, in this political climate, your case must be f**king bullet-proof!
WAIT FOR THE U.N.'s REPORT!!
If all is as claimed, Russia and China will be shamed into silence, and action can be taken without exacerbating tensions in the Middle East....

....and if it's not, the more vocal western politicians can kiss their careers goodbye.
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squarenuts Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015
Your missing the big picture. In the past the USA has always tried to keep an ally in the region. (Iran, then Iraq, Kuwait) The current plan is to play the power of both Turkey and Saudi Arabia off of each other. (and sell weapons to both to keep them as regional powers) The wild card will be Iran. Both Turkey and Saudi Arabia will put up with the other as long as the threat of Iran getting the bomb will keep the other two players in a stalemate. (why) 20% of all political funds generated in the USA come from the Jewish community. The US wants to avoid having to deploy forces to Israel at all costs. (yet another buyer of US weapons)

As for your issue above about Kerry, the US government wants the leader of Syria out. With a pro US government installed in Assad place. Again to both sell weapons and get contracts to rebuild the country. As for the the sarin attack, its almost impossible that those weapons came from the Syrian government. It is more likely that the weapons was brought into the country by a third party. 

take your pick

www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-…

www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/…

wtfrly.com/2014/04/11/jeffrey-…
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White-fox21 Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
I apologize for all the stupid people here in the US we really do need to kick some of the people out. And I apologize that most people do think that most people in the east are blood thirsty war-mangers. It's just that we're not the most trusting country in the world and for that I apologize.
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squarenuts Featured By Owner Apr 23, 2015
What are you apologizing for? Unless your old enough to vote and just didn't both to. This isn't American Idol where the public gets to cast a vote in on everything our country does. 
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White-fox21 Featured By Owner Apr 24, 2015  Student Traditional Artist
I know but I still fell guilty 
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squarenuts Featured By Owner Apr 26, 2015
Its all about pipelines and selling weapons. I would change the wording of the public from being "stupid", to just not caring. (Bruce Jenner gender change anyone) I mean, a majority of people in the US have no idea about this issue. We are talking about a country that runs really well when it comes to day to day life. Unless we see another climb in gas prices, the public will take no notice of this. 

As for people in the "East". (warning bias of a veteran who has been in this area) There is an general mindset that anyone from the west and especially not being of Muslim faith are a threat to their way of life. Yes there are moderates but they don't risk speaking out against the hardliners. Some day the Middle East will run out of oil and that will cause the money to dry up. Only then will there be any meaningful change. 
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yohannbiimu Featured By Owner May 9, 2014
Not Lurch-like enough...
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Frigidchick Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
I was done with caring about the US government when they acted like high school mean girls and went on strike.....  but STILL got paid.  
Everyone else below them?--- Fuck'em.  
The children cancer treatment funding?----fuck'em, too.
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BadMillennial Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2014
You can always tell when a politician lies, their lips move.
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Bikerbloke Featured By Owner Mar 8, 2014
Well said fella!
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formorian5 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014
MY theory is that America is having a case of "has been" syndrome. After WW2, we felt, with a fair amount of justification, that we'd played a major part in defeating the evil forces of the world. With the boost to the economy the war brought and the power of the atom in our grip, we felt powerful, a force of good in the world. Since then, we've been sliding downhill, waging increasingly over-the-top wars against increasingly ill-equipped enemies. I think the American government is like a washed-up prize-fighter trying to prove he's still got it.
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jollyjack Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014

You're crediting the upper echelons with way too much nobility.
The general population may fight the good fight, but those that put them in harm's way only think War = Business = Money.
Need money? Find a war.
No war? Start one.

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BadMillennial Featured By Owner Apr 10, 2014
But you have to be an unfathomably ignorant jackass to favor them. 
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formorian5 Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014
I'm sad to say I agree with that. I used to think U.S. Government wasn't COMPLETELY corrupt, that  few bad apples had tainted the public concept of them. Know I realize corruption isn't just rampant, it's pretty much a  job requirement. Anyone smart and noble enough to lead towards good wants nothing to do with politics.
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CorgiBurgre111 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Student General Artist
Over here in America, ignorance is considered a virtue by many. Some purposely follow idiotic trends and act like their excrement doesn't smell. And a great number of those who find fault with this either remain silent and loathe in peace or post their displeasure on the Internet and call it quits. Kind of like what I'm doing right now.
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CorgiBurgre111 Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2014  Student General Artist
As an example, look at the recent events that transpired on social media sites in dealing with Coca Cola's commercial. It has "America the Beautiful" sung in a multitude of languages and a great number of Americans posted hate about Coke, saying things about how, "because we're in 'Murica, this commercial should be in American." I'm paraphrasing of course, but it just goes to show that there are ignorant people all over this country.
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chyvaelry Featured By Owner Jan 18, 2014  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I live in the U.S.  It's my home, and I have served in it's defense.

I love my Country.

That said, I am ashamed of the actions of my Elected representatives, and their appointed officials.  I realize that our foreign policy has made us wildly unpopular just about everywhere on Earth.  

We the People are not well represented by the buffoons in D.C. (or maybe the majority of us are, and that's even more depressing). 
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MisterFriendly Featured By Owner Nov 2, 2013
At this point, I see the US government as a poorly done comedy act. At least this way I get a few chuckles and shakes of the head out of their ridiculousness.
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Twilight16Master Featured By Owner Oct 21, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
they sadly never get condemned for that shit.... but it's still only a matter of time before the U.S. gets Libertarians to run the place.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Filmographer

 Well, I think Libertarians would definitely be a rousing about face from the cliff side. People who actually care about the first amendment, who don't water it down with disingenuous precepts like "hate speech", running the show would certainly be preferable.


Especially if they finally dismantle the religio-political industrial complex festering the courts, the houses, and the presidency's cabinet. More than half of our country is chucking their hard earned net worth at an unverifiable hypothesis; with preacher, pastors, rabbis and evangelists salivating at the chance to exploit and propagate ignorance. Much of it backwards and violent. Circumcision, for instance, is a human rights violation; and any rabbi who skins a baby boy alive--or any child, or any person without their permission--- should be peddling his desert fairy tales in cell block. Doctors should be arrested as well for circumcising without permission by the parents or the child.


 As a libertarian, I believe in an America that observes what atheist james Maddison and deist Thomas Jefferson maintained to be necessary for the purity of religion and the continuity of the state: a strict and unflinching separation.

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Outbreak-II Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
Depends on the type of libertarians.
I mean, some lean left, some lean right. There are some who want to dismantle the Dept. of Education & leave education entirely up to the parents and/or homeschool programs. Some want to completely take away all social safety nets & forms of welfare.

Personally, I'm the sort of liberal that would thrive in Scandinavian countries. Big on civil & social freedoms, not so fond of bigotry, wage gaps, or letting the average citizen have access to rocket launchers.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Feb 10, 2014  Student Filmographer

A)rocket launchers are tits. Besides...how many...people, we'll say that---how many people have been killed by a civilian rocket launcher. Also I'm pretty certain RPG's are military grade weaponry off limits to civilians. In any case, you're clearly not aware of America's historically vindicated pragmatism when it comes to weapons: "when the people fear the government, it's tyranny. When the government fears the people...it's liberty." Sorry, you're talking to an Arizonian (conceal and carry state, bitch!): I don't have a problem with people owning military grade weapons. I have issues with people misusing those weapons; which is why I believe in mandated safety courses and certificates of authenticity, not just handing some bumpkin fuck a glock and hoping for the best.

B)You need public education of some kind--some nationally recognized template for knowledge--because otherwise any creationist yutze can teach kids that evolution will make their penis shrivel because God hates fags. Clearly a bad idea. Same thing with obscenity laws.

C)Those countries aren't as idyllic as you think. Many of them are highly misandristic. Like Sweden, that rates movies by gender equality; which it defines as two women talking about something other than a man or men: even though Princess Leia, Ripley, and Sarah Connor are basically the only women in those movies. Or how France that defines sexual harassment entirely by female opinion and can fine you up to 3,000 dollars plus jail time. Or England that literally is retrofitting female prisons, putting non-violent women in custodial communes (they're like penal gated communities)--all so they can fill these prisons with even MORE men. Even though men make up in 95% of the prisoners in the U.K.. Just like the U.S. Like most first world countries. In fact, on a global scale I've never seen a country that didn't go above 20% female convicts. Switzerland I've heard is a man-hater's meccah. They hhhhhate men there like most of Europe. Every European country I've seen is hyper feminized. To the point of critical mass. At least that regarding France, Sweden, U.K. and Switzerland. I still need to do more research.

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Outbreak-II Featured By Owner Mar 13, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
A) Rocket launchers ARE tits, but no civilian needs them. And no single civilian, or even small militia, will ever have enough firepower to take on the US military (which, btw, is the "well-regulated militia" mentioned in the Constitution). The problem is, it's really easy for nutballs, domestic terrorists & "white nationalist" militia groups to get their hands on high-powered weaponry as it is; we don't need them having legal access to RPGs & C-4 so they can just blow up entire communities.
I'm all for concealed carry, and for reasonable firearm ownership. Pistols, shotguns, single-shot & sport rifles - all good. Grenades, Claymore mines, high explosives? There is no reasonable justification for your average non-military citizen to own those (and the paranoid bunker-dwelling "we gotta rise up against the gub'ment" rhetoric doesn't fly here).

B) I agree that we need public education. Which is why I disagree with the people who think it should be entirely up to the parents, or - heaven forbid - the churches.

C) Have you actually been to those countries? "Highly misandristic"? If you're a MRA, maybe.
Neither I, nor any of my male friends, have had any problems in those countries. Are you getting your info from MGTOW or the Spearhead or something?

-Swedish cinemas: That was only put in place as of late 2013, and it's not even all cinemas. It's also done on a voluntary basis. Besides, there are plenty of films with women in active roles doing something other than talking about men; Hunger Games ring a bell? And they have to pass the Bechdel test, which has nothing to do with "talking about men." Romantic comedies can still pass the test. You misrepresent the actual facts.
-French sexual harassment laws: Funny, I can't find any sources backing up your claim here. I do know they repealed a former law for being too vague, and adopted a new one that - amongst other things - now protects transgender people. That doesn't seem to be "entirely by female opinion" to me.
-English Prisons: They are retrofitting prisons to accommodate violent male prisoners, who make up the vast majority of violent criminals in the UK? That actually sounds reasonable. I assume you're projecting some fiendish anti-male conspiracy to imprison men on the (mostly male) government of England here, though.
-Switzerland: A man-hater's mecca? Oh, for crying out loud... only if you define "man-hater" as "any woman that doesn't believe she should be subservient & inferior to all men." In fact, the only sources I could find for that claim are from sites like A Voice For Men, a well-known MRA (and misogynist) site that has been caught making things up in the past.

I don't think your definition of "hyper feminized" is the same as anyone else's - outside of male supremacist groups, that is.
In fact, your whole post comes off as a MRA/MGTOW rant. Maybe you should do more *unbiased* research.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Mar 17, 2014  Student Filmographer
A)How can my whole "rant" so-called come off as an MRA diatribe, when C) was the only bullet point where I even remarked on hyper feminization in europe? To clarify--since you apparently don't understand-- feminization, like machismo, is the concept of a culture or governance that emphasizes the traits, priorities and comfort of a given sex, in this case women. Many first world countries, by this definition, are very hyperfeminized. That's what it means when you have half of your populace dying ten years younger (according to Dr. Warren Farrel), consisting of *95% of the incarcerated, with next to no reproductive rights, with four times the rate of suicide, a one in four chance of cancer, a 70% plus rate of genital mutilation at infancy (96% of which is conducted without anesthetic www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9712/23/cir…; and yet the other half thinks it's the gender under seige. The gender that doesn't have to agree, at gun point, to either sign up to possibly die in a ditch or go to jail. I don't deny women issues, I just acknowledge male ones, too.

 B) define misogyny. In my experience people don't know the difference between misogyny and chauvinism. Misogyny is the fear and hatred of women, meaning language, gestures, actions or socio-political initiatives that threaten or terrorize specifically a woman or women based on their gender. Like "boys are stupid, throw rocks at them."

Chauvinism, however, is the assertion of cultural superiority, often in the case of sexism based on gender www.merriam-webster.com/dictio…. Feminists, I find (in my personal observance) are particularly dense about the difference. Sometimes compulsively equating misogyny with chauvinism.

*"Males were imprisoned at a rate 14 times higher than females(954 per 100,000 U.S. residents compared to 68 per 100,000 U.S. residents, respectively)." Prison Inmates at Midyear 2009-Statistical Tables, Heather C. West, Ph.D., Bureau of Justice Statistics
 www.bjs.gov/content/pub/ascii/…  

 Adding up the total 1022 inmates, women only comprised .06% of the incarcerated. 
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Outbreak-II Featured By Owner Jul 10, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
A) Please explain how shorter lifespans, suicide rates, and cancer statistics have ANYthing to do with males being "under siege." Those aren't the fault of women (unless you live under the delusion that there's a massive conspiracy by women to cause cancer & other health issues in men, and to drive them to suicide in droves).
Feminists fight against involuntary circumcision (though some men willingly undergo it later in life for personal reasons), and one COULD argue that the disparity in incarceration rates is a slight against men - except it comes from the patriarchal view that women are weaker, less dangerous, and less capable of committing crimes than men. (The fact that biological males are simply more likely to commit violent crimes is also a factor.)

B) "Boys are stupid, throw rocks at them" is no more a serious endorsement of violence against men than "ewww, girls are icky" is a serious statement on female STD rates. It's a playful mockery of childhood attitudes, not a threat against your manhood.
And you seem to imply that misogyny isn't prevalent, despite all the things you listed being prevalent in many cultures (including parts of the US).
Chauvinism often comes paired WITH misogyny (or misandry, which is less common but equally disgusting). Most MRAs, for instance, are both chauvinists and misogynists - just like most radfems are chauvinists & misandrists. Most feminists DO understand the difference, but the two attitudes are so often found hand-in-hand that it's easier to just list the one that's actually causing the most harm. "In my experience" is never followed by unbiased or statistically representative claims; for someone so determined to come off as being reasonable & intellectual about this, you should have known better.

AVFM, Spearhead & MGTOW are definitely chauvinistic AND misogynist, because they regularly express fear & hatred of women, as well as advocating socio-political initiatives (such as a law forcing women into submission & sexual slavery to men) and actions (rape apologetics being a favourite at those sites). Claiming otherwise is simply a case of ignorance of their forums, or outright dishonesty. I'm going to assume the former. After all, MRAs & MGTOWs are a rather fringe group, so one can't be expected to know where they congregate unless one actively seeks out that information.

You still haven't responded to any of my actual points, though. Shall I assume you're conceding those points, or are you still formulating a response?
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Twilight16Master Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
for the most part, I agree. though I do think that letting parents practice their own religions is part of that sepparation. don't make laws around it just because you find it abhorrent. male circumcision is something that ultimately, I think is none of my or anyone else's business.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Dec 16, 2013  Student Filmographer

Funny. Because female circumcision---which is applied to a region of anatomy with a mere 4,000 nerve endings compared to the average male's 80,000---has been conclusively classified as wildly, wildly abusive. And we've crucified any human rights violators who said otherwise with minimal litigious strain in a court of law. Provided the deformed party had a vagina. Yet baby boys are skinned alive en masse in this country with proven psychological trauma to show for it; with 96% of this procedures observed without anesthetic; and Christian, jews and muslims and even nondenominational spiritualists never so much as bate their eyes.

CNN reported on the study www.cnn.com/HEALTH/9712/23/cir… that was undergone to determine the exact pain circumcision entailed in numbed and unnumbed boys: the results were so mortifying that the experiment, a recent venture, was discontinued. The researchers were so convinced of the slobberingly obvious, the sheer cruelty of the experiment, they quit full stop. Let that sink in: the researchers were so disgusted by the apparent atrocity of the experiment that they stopped doing what's standard procedure in this country: to perform circumcision without anesthetic.

 I have an article on the subject if you'd care to look plus a video featuring a circumcision of a child with a fuck ton of research by multiple medical journals www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_zkKc… board.freedomainradio.com/topi…, proving conclusively there are no remarkable benefits to circumcision. it's a psychologically debilitating procedure, causes erectile dysfunction; and it's even been theorized to be one of the causes in men that crave violent, abusive sex. Because they're trying to get the same amount of sensation with a deformed member that requires more extreme stimuli. It's just common sense: mutilating a child is wrong. End of story. Replace the penis with a vagina and everyone knows it's wrong: this is deliberate amorality against boys.

 This isn't a matter of opinion: this is raw common sense. Mutilating a child not even a day old---after posturing how sacred his life is; and that he's a pink squishy snowflake made by a benevolent god---by pinning him down and sawing a third of his penis off...it's torture. If Christians, Jews and Muslims want to be deformed downstairs by all means, saw away: but when you do something like that to a child...without their express permission...you are, in effect, committing the human rights equivalent of a war crime. For a procedure that doesn't even pertain to Christians; who are gentiles not children of Israeli adopting the covenant bestowed to Jacob. Christ never once, ever, in the new testament mandated circumcision. That's nowhere to be found (former priest here). European countries, predominately catholic, don't even observe this nonsense anymore. The mecca of a centuries old cult doesn't even require circumcision: what is the point continuing this senseless decision!? Where is the morality in mutilating a baby boy without his say in the matter? Could it be that if they didn't do mutilate him when the boy is helpless, when he could object, that he wouldn't do it? What are these religions afraid of? Freewill?

 Mutilating of a helpless human being IS my business. And frankly your's as a decent human being.

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majin88 Featured By Owner Oct 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Sadly, Americans no longer elect statesmen, but flower children with graduate degrees, used car salesmen and reality- t.v. hopefuls.
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zoron246 Featured By Owner Oct 15, 2013
i agree with you completely most of our politicians rely on the stupid element of out country which is ironically college graduates.....most of which only graduate with art degrees or some easy as hell to get degree. that and the old politicians crony up with friends and make sure no one new gets elected unless they kiss ass or whatever.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
um, point of order, to make comics or animated features one typically needs an art major or art minor. Like the guy who made this strip probably needed.
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zoron246 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013
im not dissing art , I love art, I agree that anyone who gets one is obviously a very talented individual. I just mean that it seems that most people I KNEW in it were only in it because the courses at the college in my area only gives grades for participation.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
Grades for participation?...What is this Mississippi!?
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Nemesisprime91 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2013  Student Writer
That's true...and why everything is wrong with our government. Not the system, just the people in control of it.
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BLAZR-SAN Featured By Owner Oct 8, 2013
I agree about the necessary action needed by the U.N.; the politics of this plight must be proven, or it will instead prove once and for all that we, the stupid American population, are truly run by f**king "gooch-sniffing zebraqueefer-reefers" (or something to that effect of words... damn you Jon Stewart for the semi-buttocked inspiration.... Why, Jon Stewart, did you come up with those hilarious labels for those deserving republicans? ...Oh yehh. because they brought it on themselves for back peddling and blaming everyone else on something the republicans raved and ranted about. ....I'll shut up for now.....)
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StarBomber109 Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
I think drinking blood and oil was actually in a Rage Against the Machine song :P
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spiderham20 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
The u.n. will never ok military action in syria because truth be told if doesn't happen in the backyard of a secretary council member then no f***s will be given, even if proof is found that links one group or another to what happened the u.n. will do what it always dose, NOTHING, oh they'll chest thump and be all fire and brimstone but when all is said and done it will just words and red ink, no one cares what happens in syria or egypt or africa or anywhere that doesn't have a coffee shop on every corner or electric store on every street because why should they " it's not my problem".
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CKentavr Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
Russia was dead-set that there wouldn't be a UN report... So what would we be waiting for?
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0Anesthetic4u Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
Am I the only one who finds it hilarious that its the Democrats pushing for War with all their might? Come on they are supposed to be the guys who hate all war. They bitched and moaned for 10 straigt years about Iraq, but now they are chomping at the bit to go into a war under somewhat similar circumstances, that could lead straight into a world war? UP IS DOWN AND THE LAWS OF PHYSICS DONT APPLY!
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roue2005 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013
Since we're already stuck with him, we'll trade you John Kerry for Piers Morgan.
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DFX2K9 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
As an US citizen.... I have to admit... I must admit that I feel somewhat responsible. Mainly because I share (remotely) the same history and heritage as our wall-humping, window-licking, brain-dead short-bus denizens in office. The U.N. (at least at it's leadership level, the poor sobs in the humanitarian dept notwithstanding) is a bunch of globalist corporate profiteers. They're like the U.S. But with some class (and a penchant for firing whistle-blowers, too).

Even still, they seem to have the level of common sense needed to figure this is going to be a disaster if it happens. At the very least, it'll tick off the mid-east. Worse (for the U.S) would be the Saudis deciding they'd like their coin in gold or the Euro. Only thing holding our dollar up at the moment is oil. Worse yet, would be Russia backing Syria, which would then put two large (yet both near broke) nations in a cozy proxy war. There is no way in hell that's going to end up in anyone's favor. Willl it end up like Fallout? No, but it doesn't have to.
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codyrush Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2013  Student Filmographer
I don't know about that: whenever the U.N.'s professionals maintain that woman are at a higher risk in almost all-male combat...I have to doubt their intellectual integrity.
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DFX2K9 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
yeah, intellectual integrity is in laughably short supply in politics.
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bruiser128 Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
Unlike lots of people my beef is with Russia. My main belief and reason for hating them is because they only want to become a superpower again and syria would be a big help for it's port.
Also Putin in my own personal opinion is a megalomaniac who doesn't show it.
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JGood8 Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Enough said... enough said lol.
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dark-klawd Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Seems Legit
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demosthenes1blackops Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
are 1400 sarin casualties any more dead than 100K conventional casualties?
aside from some (very serious) questions concerning who actually did the deed, I have one great big unanswered question: Why should any nation interfere in a civil war between one pack of neckchopping barbarians and another pack of neckchopping barbarians?
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dagoth-jeff Featured By Owner Sep 10, 2013  Hobbyist Writer

- The UN isn't some all-knowing, trustworthy entity. I don't know how you believe that.

- Countries like Russia and China CANNOT be "shamed into silence" where did you even get that notion? You're acting like they have a conscience to begin with, and that Russia, if proven wrong on Syria's weapons, would gladly "step aside." Ridiculous.

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drelanarus Featured By Owner Sep 11, 2013
When it comes to identifying the chemical presence of weaponized sarin, both the US and the UN can easily preform unfalsifiable chemical analyses to verify its presence.

So why is it important to wait for the UN's conclusion? Simple!

After decades of declaring constant wars of aggression in the region, *nobody trusts the US*.
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dagoth-jeff Featured By Owner Sep 12, 2013  Hobbyist Writer

I'm so happy for you, that you were elected official spokesperson regarding this matter of opinion.

Your mother must be very proud.

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gatewayev910 Featured By Owner Sep 14, 2013
us is the brutt of every dumb war-mongering joke in the world. I don't see why we shouldn't wait for the UN's opinion on the matter....

it's funny, Obama told everyone he hates what Bush did and so far, he hasn't done much to distance himself from him. We are going to supply weapons to the rebels in syria who is a load of people from the Free Syrian Army (FSA) to the Al Qaeda-affiliated al-Nusra Front. Think about that for a second. We are freely supplying weapons to Al Qaeda. Again. 
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gatewayev910 Featured By Owner Sep 15, 2013
I see now... for the sake of higher morals we are should supply weapons to Al Qaeda again and go to war because no one else got the morals to do it. Everyone else is darn immoral they are just ignoring the situation completely. Since the US of A is so moral, we are going to do something which will lead to an increase to the ranks of terrorists that are willing to die to attack us. 
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