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Is it just me, or does the lack of blue-collar/this is just a job/"I'm in it for the money" crewmen, make Alien: Covenant feel a bit.... "meh"?
The command crew of Hadley's Hope were cut from the theatrical release of Aliens and only barely show up in the special edition, but I'd rather watch not-Captain-Hollister bitch about company policy than a bunch of lovey-dovey couples fondle space-wheat.

For me, what makes the universe of Alien so interesting isn’t the titular Alien at all, but the grimy, industrial, super-machines, the crews that run them and the bureaucracy they have to operate under. Prometheus certainly didn’t have any of that – for a start, everything is shiny and clean - and Covenant looks to be following the same trajectory. Freaky sh*t bursting from someone’s back is just gore. In the age where one of the latest video games allows you to shoot a Nazi in the nuts and get an XRay view of the cordite-castration: gore just isn’t interesting to watch.


Commander of Hadley's Hope....Captain of Red Dwarf......never go into space with this man!!
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jeremy3852 Featured By Owner Mar 15, 2017
my god your right about the picture. though in his defense you have a 50/50 chance of being brought back to life by a nanite swarm after you die. really you just dont want to be around rimmer. hes annoying, a mass murder by way of incompidence, and look what happens when he gets back to earth. he becomes a butler and his employers house gets toasted. hes the true bad luck if you ask me.
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Sephirothwolf Featured By Owner Mar 14, 2017  Professional Artist
to be fair to Mac McDonald he was really just Dennis the Doughnut Boy
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ConnorCat Featured By Owner Mar 10, 2017
I said similar things before when comparing the original Alien, Aliens, and even Predator to the Alien Vs. Predator movies. In Alien, we get to know the crew a good bit. They bicker and argue among themselves with some of them throwing a fit over a rather minor and petty issue, despite being told that the issue they're worried about (not receiving a bonus) is illegal and they're guaranteed said money. We get to know that these are people who will work together, if begrudgingly, but I strongly doubt a lot of them spend a lot of off time together. Before the titular...problem comes up, we know their names and some aspects of their personalities.

Alien Vs. Predator tried to give us some character development, but it becomes a problem when I made a point by asking people to name three characters from that movie off the top of their head. The most a lot of them could manage, along with myself, was two. The sequel, Aliens Vs. Predator: Requiem...they included gratuitous blood and gore. That was it. The characters weren't compelling at all, and again nobody knew their names.

I thought Prometheus had good characters (for the most part) it was the story and motivations and such that were a mess...also the running scene. Y'all know the one.
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Starshipfuel15 Featured By Owner Mar 20, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
The one where the chick ran from the giant spaceship and made it?
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ConnorCat Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017
Yeah instead of running perpendicular to it. Two women. Two astronauts.
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Starshipfuel15 Featured By Owner Mar 30, 2017  Hobbyist Artist
*sigh* I really wish Alien (or any of the old horror movies) could just go back to there roots or be improved in a way that doesn't suck
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ConnorCat Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2017
Yeah -_-
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hamsterminator Featured By Owner Mar 4, 2017
Isn't it about the juxtaposition between the clean/ comfortable and the horrifying/ gory? That's surely the whole theme behind why they are so sinister and horrifying.  Sort of a Heaven/ Hell concept.
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zfragger Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2017
While I did enjoy the Alien franchise as a kid. I have become unimpressed since prometheus. Don't get me wrong I enjoyed the movie but it added so little. Heck even the cross over AVP movies added more to the franchise than prometheus did. I've got my fingers crossed in hopes this is not another bomb.
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BarbecuedIguana Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2017
Gore is just easy spectacle.

The only thing more disappointing than a film that relies on it is one that doesn't but does nothing to make up for its absence.
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GeraldII Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2017
I just want more Colonial Marines lol :D
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Ferain Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Professional Artist
Personally the whole trailer just indicates that the movie will stay on familiar ground: Finding a space jockey ship, somebody getting facehuggered, xenomorph comes in and starts killing people. The xeno does look awesome of course with the new effects, but story-wise this doesn't seem to show anything new, unfortunately.
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017
I still don't get the change of character focus. "David" was a head in a bag that the aliens treated like a pretentious toaster, so how does he get to become a full-bodied person again AND the ambassador for interacting with them? How does Elizabeth from the Prometheus movie get written out? I am guessing she refused to return to the movie series or something, but I'm guessing that they'd already slated to pay "David" - Micheal Fassbender more money than her and she - Noomi Rapace wasn't having it. I am guessing considering we have an entirely new crew that Elizabeth and David-head are found en-route to the alien homeworld by a second vessel and join their crew - who repair David and somehow kill off Elizabeth. In other words it sounds like the same kind of garbage that created the plot of Aliens3 - with basically everybody who survived Aliens having died in stasis in between movies - including Ripley, she just took longer to realize she was already dead. Writing Elizabeth out of the story basically is a turn for the worse in trying to legitimize this thing to us Aliens fans. Fassbender is not our new Ripley.
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Phraxus Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017
I couldn't agree more.  I think this really emphasizes the core problem with Hollywood nowadays.  They keep trying to recapture the success of their prior accomplishments, without actually understanding what made them work in the first place.  

I wasn't particularly interested in Alien: Covenant when I saw the original teaser.  Now that I've seen the full trailer, I can safely say I have no interest whatsoever in this film. >>
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androidman Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
totally agree with you on this one..
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BoneSatellite Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Whoa, whoa, whoa...that's the 'Red Dwarf' captain!?
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shirowwolf Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
  Yep! Mac McDonald played a bit part in Aliens, but like Jack said, it was cut from the theatrical, but re-inserted into the Special Edition. He did this before he was on Red Dwarf!
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BoneSatellite Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017
I'm probably the hundredth sci-fi fan to say this, but...while dealing with Lister and Rimmer, he probably yearned for the days that one time when his biggest problem was xenomorphs.
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shirowwolf Featured By Owner Mar 3, 2017  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Probably! >3
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Virtual-SG Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
I saw an image at work today meant to conjure the impression of an orgy.
So it seems they're riding this "bunch of lovey-dovey couples" pretty hard.
I can see how this all makes sense as another take on a never-ending franchise.
I agree with your comments but they don't see it that way at all.
They want to go the psycho-sexual-horror route.

The image - it's a nice painting but it's just a bunch of xenomorphs writhing among naked people "wearing" face-huggers.

I don't care for contemporary cinema, so it's hard to imagine myself being impressed by any route they choose.
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JoshuaGriffin Featured By Owner Edited Mar 1, 2017
I'm fairly apprehensive about a lot of things regarding this film. The setting doesn't really appeal to me too much, the characters seem just like the people that didn't get hired to work in Prometheus, in fact: I hate to the high heaven how much this seems to reek of Prometheus, they should distance themselves from that movie about as much as they do Resurrection. I also hate -hate- the fact that they're using CGI on the aliens, it always turns out weird and makes them look stupid and move strange.
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DonaldBrent Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I have to agree that the 'truckers/grunts in space just doing their job' thing is my favorite part of Alien/s... and the idea that 'every crew member on Covenant is part of a loving couple' is such utter crap... anybody whose ever seen one single episode of a 'couples reality show' knows what BS that is. I'm really hoping they can do something spectacular with the script and acting, because what they've shown of the setting, characters, special effects, and sets is just 'meh... wanna-be alien/s... but not as fun'.

But hey... it'll probably be better than Colonial Marines! 
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Chwen-Hoou Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
I want to be hopeful about Alien: Covenant. I really do. But I keep going back to a thought that both the Alien franchise has much in common with the Terminator franchise. Short version: two great sci-fi movies where their first and second entries are modern classics but are attached to unnecessary and lackluster sequels that follow. Your mileage may vary on how you see this and what you think of the later entries. Still, I can't help but think "Wouldn't both series been better by ending after their first sequel's (Aliens and Terminator 2: Judgement Day)?"
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DonaldBrent Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can add Predator to your list of series that should have stopped with II. :nod:
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Chwen-Hoou Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
I kinda like Predators but, as I said before, mileage may very. Also, both Aliens and Predator had the late Bill Paxton on board so that's a plus in my book.
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DonaldBrent Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Predators was pretty cool, I do like Adrian Brody :nod: Bill Paxton graced every film he touched. Aliens, Predator, Terminator... all he needed was a tiny one-line role, and the movie was great.
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Obhan Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017   Digital Artist
I'm an optimist, at least this crew isn't filled with 'experts' who are somehow not genre savvy enough to know not to pet a threatening looking alien wiener snake :P
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Aniseth-LightWing Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017   Digital Artist
You also have to remember that the wreaks you saw in Alien and Aliens, were old. So they were literal wreaks. Everything is shiny and new, cause it is. It would have to be.

But, everyone is entitled to their opinion so I'm not gonna fault you for not liking it. I might be setting myself up for disappointment, but I'm still excited to see it.
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haruau Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
I want to see a space movie that's the reality of it, can't keep everything clean, have to survive with what you have, and have the person's job be a dirty one to show that not everything in the universe is clean. (Look at fallout for example, everything is decaying from nuclear damage and unuseage. Survive with what you find.) None of this white wall cleanliness, that doesn't exist!
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detrix101 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Total agreement. Seems everyone wants to focus on the white collar guys, in these movies, and completely ignore the "Space janitors" Who keep the sci-fi worlds running. who in my opinion, have a much higher stake in movies like alien, and even Blade Runner.
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Doga-87 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Where in the post Millennial, iPod era. Blue collar workers were all hunted down and milked for their velum.   
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SeiuchiKing Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Finding an earth plant on another planet would freak me out for sure. People bitch about things all the time. I'd rather not see it on entertainment. To me what Alien interesting is the hopelessness and what I thought was another being in space that wasn't intelligent. Meeting an ANIMAL species interests me. 
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Mate397 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
What really made nosense about the crew is that a COLONIZING ship had gay couples on board, I really don't see what can they give to the colony they planned to establish, because it ain't kids. But other than that I see your point, it feels more like a fieldtrip in space with a shiny car than a score of the century type of job done by a massive bulky space truck.
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struck3Xbylightning Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Genetic diversity. Having two additional males as part of the crew not being biologically related would increase the genetic diversity among the couples. 
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Mate397 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017
But if they are gay they won't have kids, unless they were "forced" to donate sperm which can be used later on, gay couples can't reproduce. That's what I'm getting at, and no duh, pretty sure the ship's crew is not related even the slightest.
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struck3Xbylightning Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
It's a colonizing mission. Pretty sure they know what they are there for. Hardly 'forced'. Gay couples can reproduce, by providing the genetic material. Of course a man can't carry a child, but they can reproduce. The crew may not be related, but their descendants will be, eventually.
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Mate397 Featured By Owner Mar 2, 2017
If it's a small number of them yes, I'm just saying that it's pointless to take a couple that can't reproduce and you have to take extra equipment so that their genetic material can be used for a future generation, simply the logistics rule out gay couples.
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Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Here's the dirty secret about the Alien franchise. After 'Aliens', there was nowhere else to go. The Xenomrph is just a movie monster at the end of the day, and what makes a monster scary is the mystery behind it. In the first film we, like the characters, have no idea what the Alien is or how it operates. It's kept mostly in shadow and is going up against crew that doesn't have the tools necessary to defeat it. Then comes 'Aliens', and right away the novelty is that there are more of them, adding to the terror. We also learn of the Queen, which acts as a terrifying "final boss" for our hero, Ripley.

Everything after this was repetitive. Eggs, face-huggers, acid blood, dripping slime from above etc. Just like a Dracula or Jason Vorhees, the Alien is now a series of cliches that itself created. No matter how scary 'Covenant' tries to make itself, no matter how atmospheric and like the original it is (or isn't), it won't matter, because the centerpiece of the show doesn't scare us anymore.
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MobianMonster Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
At least it'll be better than Alien 3. Probably.
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Vahzah-Dovahkiin Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Photographer
It'll definitely be better than Resurrection.
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gundamrx79 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
Commander of Hadley's Hope....Captain of Red Dwarf......never go into space with this man! haha love it
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
The only thing I don't like so far, is seeing the adult Xeno in the trailer... I could have waited for the movie to get a proper look, almost spoiled it too much for me.

Otherwise, looks great. All Aliens movies have been different, there is no set script/visual for the franchise anymore, and I'm fine with that. I can pick the setting I like the most, but I'm more interested in the story and evolution of the Xeno than anything else.
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Maphisto86 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Same opinion here concerning the alien. I mean, I don't mind its appearance; in fact, it is a welcome return to the look and feel of the original creature. Damn modern movie trailer conventions, though, for showing some of what is likely the best stuff in the film before it is out! :shakefist:
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Exactly! Xeno looked rad, nice downgrade from the sleekness of 3, and closer to Resurection. But, I feel like I've seen far too much in the trailers... I would have been happy, with some 15 second flashing teaser, and the Meet the Team short... leave it at that!
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Maphisto86 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
Fortunately, they have not shown too much of the Neomorph. Though that makes me nervous; are they keeping it from being too present in the trailer because they want to maintain the element of surprise or is it just a scrawny, pale, wannabe Xeno that barely matters in the plot?
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spidermanfan2099 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017
I think the Neomorph will have about 15mins of fame, then a super long boring midsection full of exposition, followed by utter carnage and fear for the final 3rd of the movie!

Still gonna be good though!
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Sathra1 Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Student Digital Artist
yeah, the dirty industrial feel is, in big part, what did the alien franchise, so if you take  that away it kinda feels disturbing. To me that's just one more of many reasons to say "meh" about this movie. What about the claustrophobic aspect of the fisrt one, that was like crucial to keep the tension, you see none of that here.
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NightmareVF Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Student Writer
I'm glad I wasn't the only one
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Omnivault Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist General Artist
I gotta see this trailer.
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SlyFXZ Featured By Owner Mar 1, 2017  Hobbyist Digital Artist
*shrugs shoulders* "Meh!"
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