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3D printing is a fabulous technological advance, and anyone with a creative mind will be thrilled at the possibilities that could be just around the corner as a result of its development….

Or would be if some dick hadn't decided to use it to make a weapon: www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-env…

Yes, we're back on the gun-debate-thing. And this time the pro-gun crowd are pissing me off because they've set in motion a chain of events that will stifle the potentially fabulous ability to transfer what you create on your computer into the real world.

The man behind it harps on about liberty being his motivation for doing it.

What rot.

Liberty has to be tempered with responsibility, otherwise you just have anarchy. Using new technology to build a gun doesn't make you a champion for freedom, it makes you an attention seeking moron who gives the powers-that-be REASON to restrict it. They will now do everything the can to prevent the proliferation of the technology. They will restrict the materials, current and future, that can be used in the printers. They will put as many bureaucratic hoops in the way as they can to stop anyone without the right permits, documentation, licensing or political standing from utilising it.
This egomanic ass-hat has thwarted, undermined and scuppered the plans that future creative minds could have implemented to better the world and life on it, all because he wanted to raise a mid digit at those who think guns might be dangerous in the wrong hands.

People that reach for the stars are always dragged back down to earth by the Neanderthals that just want to hit things with a rock.
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daemon-castelluci Featured By Owner Feb 6, 2015
Well said.
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914four Featured By Owner Jun 1, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
My take on the subject is let them have at it; as the guns explode, it will a) clean up the gene pool a bit and b) perhaps discourage future attempts.
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JerryKun Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013

 

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jollyjack Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
My concern wasn't at the effectiveness of the gun, but the extra hurdles and restrictions its existence could potentially place on the new technology that created it.
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JerryKun Featured By Owner Nov 11, 2013
Oh, they were going to regulate the hell out of it anyway.  They just found themselves a reason to do it without anyone arguing with them.  At least it is nice to know that the pending army of the one-shot-massacre is going to need some good financial backing.  =P 
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alphamule Featured By Owner Jun 28, 2013
Well, next thing you know, random people will be able to just print books without going through the church. Because information is viral and deadly on it's own, that was actually a legitimate fear from the powers-that-be (before everyone in the modern world was exposed constantly to advertisements and politics and turned apathetic? heh). Seriously though, technology being used to make cheap copies of physical items is just the next cycle in history. Old guard gives way -> new guard adapts to sea change -> Disruptive technology is fought tooth-and-nail -> Old guard gives way...

You just don't want to see what the old guard is willing to do in the beginning of the disruptive stage. Galileo's generation, for example. :(
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ShawnLeroy Featured By Owner Jun 14, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
You're blaming the pro-gun crowd because the anti-gun crowd is so afraid of guns that they might stop this wonderful invention? Really? Jack, I respect you, man, but that's asinine.

If you ask me, making a complex thing like a weapon with these things really pushes 3D printing's limits. Call me naive, but I think it is excellent to test stuff.
Now, was this fellow going to take this weapon and kill innocent people? I don't know.
Unless we have a confession, we can only speculate, but odds are, he wasn't.
Also, wouldn't a gun made out of the material used in this process break after being fired once?

Common sense is such a rare and exotic thing these days. Don't blame the guy for the mass hysteria that he had nothing to do with. ;)
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Ioialoha Featured By Owner May 19, 2013
unfortunately, there are far more neanterthals than there are star-seekers.
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Kyta-Satora Featured By Owner May 18, 2013
So deep I agree (that's wat she said)
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CoredDesigns Featured By Owner May 16, 2013  Professional Artist
Let us not forget our recent Batman lore. "Some people just want to see the world burn". And said people are just a$$holes. And the concern about this, in my opinion, is that this is a plastic gun that could be made anywhere at anytime and be very easily destroyed once used. Not visible to x-ray if the firing pin is removed, its just a dangerous idea but then I point to the comment above. Alfred was right.
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marsatas Featured By Owner May 14, 2013  Student Digital Artist
What baffles be is that some people think of that gun as some sort of breakthrough(for better or worse) and some are worried about the blueprint being given to everyone. I might be missing something but isn't it really god damn easy to make a working model of a gun, you then only adjust some measurements due too weakness of the plastic and boom, working gun. But yeah, the dude is an ass-hat for causing all nonsense.
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boborly713 Featured By Owner May 13, 2013
where do ppl even get the materials for their 3D printer?
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camolotthe10 Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
bronze can be used to make swords.
doesn't mean some greek politidick was ranting about how bronze should be made illegal.
in fact, you can make a gun out of anything except paper, and besides, the only effect that this will ever have is it's just going to be another skirmish between the pro-gun and anti-gun people, and will be quickly buried and forgotten.
ah, the perils of living in the age of information.

and i am fully aware that this didn't make much sense, but it's late, i'm tired, and i'm not really sure that the level of caring that i am at is enough to reach anything but sarcastic cynicism driven by exhaustion, meaning that you'll have to actually consider what i'm saying.
horrid.
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RustyShiningIngot Featured By Owner May 12, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Can't stop humans from being humans.
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Magic-Mouflon Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
3D printing is a powerful manufacturing process that will advance further with time and can be used to benefit humanity as a whole. Anything, even entire aircraft chassis could be made with a similar process.

The problem is that with the correct blueprints, anyone could potentially use this process to manufacture firearms in their bedroom, anyone. Whether the weapon is made entirely out of plastic and is incomplete or otherwise is beside the point.

I would assume that If someone buys a gun in store, the provider knows who buys the gun and the client is registered. The internet could be a platform for faceless transactions and unmonitered activity, even potentially a black market. In short, a gun is just as dangerous as the person brandishing it, the same can be said for this technology. When people say that self made weapons have been around for a long time, somehow that doesn't surprise me. I mean you don't even have to botch together an improvised weapon, someone in the right state of mind could run from the kitchen and stab a person with a fork. What I'm trying to say is 3D printing is a legitimate manufacturing process for fabricating items in real time, including firearms. Tight legislation should be implemented to minimise the risk of unsavoury groups or individuals gaining access to particular plueprints used to fabricate certain items, SIMPLE!
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docabsinthe Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I think that thing would be as dangerous to the user as the target. Not gonna pull that trigger. Nope
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zummerfish Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Honestly making a gun with 3D printer seems so exotic of a method I can't even understand why people bother to rant over it. 3D printers or advance technologies are not a problem. You can assemble a gun or a bow with your closet leftovers. You can even make an explosive using kitchen chemicals. Same baseball bat or kitchen knife can be a weapon. It's not guns that have to be leashed, but people's minds. A psychopath will find a way to wreck havoc and I doubt he'll go for something as complicated as that and self-made weapons have been here long before this technology.
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EverlastingAbyss Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I'm surprised kitchen knives aren't regulated in the USA under Fedral law considering they are used in more crimes and murders than guns are.
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RaidenGekkou Featured By Owner May 11, 2013
So he's being a dick because he's advancing technology? The only problem that anti-gun nuts really had with this is that it's made completely of plastic. That's why part of the gun is made with enough metal to be picked up on metal detectors, which was the main scare that blew this whole thing out od proportion. the only problem left is that people with one of these printers can makle their own at home. Other than that, nothing is wrong with designing new technology that could further humanity and make things cheaper. I don't get why everyone has to be hypercritical just because it's being used to make a gun, when it's simple enough to go to walmart and buy a cheap shotgun that propbably costs far less than the 3D printer.
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EverlastingAbyss Featured By Owner May 24, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Further more what's frustrating is the complaining that what the individual done was illegal, had the individual had an FFL, fedral fire-arms liscence. So he was obeying the law.
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venomousraptor Featured By Owner May 11, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
If I buy a 3D-printer I'll print whatever I want with it. End of story.
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XLRP Featured By Owner May 11, 2013
in the guy who made it. Own Word instead of all the spin. [link]
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Sanderford Featured By Owner May 10, 2013
Not sure how I feel about this one. I'm a firm gun rights advocate, but I also realize many governments will now trip over themselves rushing to restrict high-quality 3D printing technology.

Still again, perhaps this is for the best, as at least the first time the world learns of this is in a weapons test which is, in itself, harmless, as opposed to a madman shooting up a food court or a campus with the gun he -printed- at home.
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Skyzhema Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I understand entirely, and recently ordered a 3d printer. This is sad-why do people have to ruin this for all of us?
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DreamweaverMTZ Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
I don't see why people get so upset over guns. Sure, some people who have guns do commit crimes with them, and it's horrible. But not all people who have guns commit crimes, I'm proof of that. I own a few guns, but will I snap and go shoot up my old school? Have I ever even pointed it at someone? No. I shoot targets, I don't even shoot animals, but I'm not against hunting either. I'm just too soft-hearted to do it myself.

Also, my friend who works in the law and court told me that she sees more homicides related to other weapons, like knives, chainsaws, axes, hammers, etc. Why not ban those too, people can easily get their hands on them? There's no laws against kitchen knives or chainsaws. I do think that a 3D printed, working gun is pretty interesting and impressive that they could make it work, however I don't think it will ever be produced en masse and it's not as effective as a real gun so I don't think people will bother to buy a 3D printer and make one themselves if they really wanted to commit a crime. It would be cheaper just to buy a normal gun.
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DeathbyPurple Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
(Lol, listen to me rant.)

I, personally, think that weapons are freakin' awesome. (One of my neighbors actually owns and runs a gun store, so he lets my family shoot in the indoor range with them after the store closes. Yay.) I mean, I'm only 14, but I've got a bow and some arrows, and also I use some of my dad's handguns at the range sometimes, soooooo yeah.

Here's my flowchart:

If guns get banned → every person who abides the law gets their guns taken away → criminals get guns from the black market or theft from police or something → criminals go on killing sprees and never get caught because everyone dies before they can call the police, who don't show up in time, and the killer is gone → crime rates SKYROCKET → I sit at home with my compound bow and arrow, and pretty much everyone in my family knows self-defense, too → with guns gone, archery in my neighborhood becomes the new "thang" (my cousins already like archery, so they're good) → the rest of the world's pretty much screwed.
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RennisTora Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
All we can hope for is that idiots like these have them blow up in their faces sooner rather than later.
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FabulousMoustache Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'm gonna steer clear of the whole gun control debate here but the idea that this could lead to the suppression of 3D printing technology is just laughably silly.

People have been making zip guns for ages. You could easily go to any hardware store and buy everything you would need to build a simple functional firearm. Heck, you could make one from things plenty of people would have laying around in their garages. Improvised firearms are nothing new in the world.

This whole story is nothing but a lot of hype coming from people on both sides of the debate.
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ShunkaWarakin Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I see a lot of people going 'Gee, thanks to this asshole the authorities now know that 3d printers can be used for evil! Now they'll ban them!'

Do you people seriously think that this is news to the people who care about suppression of dangerous technologies?

Anyone with a home lathe and mill can build a far better, far more reliable firearm than this sort of thing, and hundreds of tiny companies all across the U.S. do exactly that, making custom high-precision parts that are better than what the big name factories sell.

Breaking news: lathes and mills aren't licensed.

If you want to see some interesting legal insights into this sort of thing (the ability of the public to create things which can destabilize societal power relationships), look up the history of the printing press during the 13-colonies era of American settlement. The Stamp Act wasn't really about tea, it was about restricting those damned Americans who had printing presses and were using them to print (*Gasp*) copies of books written in England, not to mention their own newspapers with scandalous political ideas in them.

The Stamp Act was pretty much the original DRM.

Another thing to check out if you truly care about how governments react to threatening technologies is the 80s-era fear of color copiers and color printers being used by counterfeiters. There was a bit of noise for a little while, a few changes were made down at the Mint, and that was it.
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orochiandsiren Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
I'm pro guns, and as long as the guy uses it responsibly, I don't have a problem with it, so far I haven't seen him on the news for a crime, so apparently he's using it right for now. For gun control, if it gets passed, the criminals will ALWAYS have guns, gun control will hurt the people who are actually law abiding and take away their means to protect themselves, so thanks pro-gun controllers for giving us a knife to go to a gun fight with....
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DeathbyPurple Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
FINALLY SOMEONE WHO UNDERSTANDS!!
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SannyF Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
CnC and 3d printers are technically the same thing this is nothing new
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Master-is-Recharged Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
If the gun didnt work it would probably be much better. I mean, the only reason I would ever think of printing something remotely like a gun is for cosplay.
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emortalcoil Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Unless 3D printing has a procedure for separating the various parts of something which is meant to move I don't see how the gun could possibly be functional. Guns have moving parts: the trigger, the firing pin, and all the bits that connect those two have to move...otherwise all you have is a fancy paperweight.
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StarbuckCloudhoof Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Professional General Artist
You print the seperate parts and assemble them into a functional gun.
It's even been test fired.

It works :V
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SGT-Conley Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Libertarians are fucking psycho.
Like all Anarchists, the very foundation of their beliefs are unsustainable an they have no understanding of the burden of proof.

To make it worse, while Anarchists want there to be no rulers Libertarians (who activly call people "sheeple" and corporate whores) want corporations to exist without ANY regulation!

At their worst, they want a return to the Feudal Era! So they can live as troglodytes with their deities an their guns under a direct ruling corporate aristocracy which oppresses everyone with a unquestionable religion and bayonet! :C
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Haunter-360 Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
Actually, I think the guy's admitted to being an anarchist, and thus 'it's not his responsibility' - Just further proof that anarchy is a ego-feeding concept utilised by slack-jawed morons that just want to do whatever they want, to heck with everyone else.
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pucedoose Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
this post sure is nicely put........ yes indeed, nicely put.
there's always one stupid ass that has to find a way to screw up the works for those that creatively benefit the world.
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KSchnee Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Student Writer
Hello. The "powers that be" already claim absolute power to make your decisions for you, to take anything you have, and even to decide you're a terrorist and kill you without trial, so furor over 3D printed guns is a relatively minor problem. Although you disagree with this use of the technology, you'd stand up for the freedom of some idiot you disagree with to express their opinion, right? You can be upset by this use of the tech while still celebrating people's right to use it that way, which is kind of the maker's point. I'm more concerned with _why_ so many people in this country currently feel threatened and oppressed.

Perhaps fortunately, these guns are apparently very low quality and not really better than what you could do with existing machine tools at home. The prototype gun is named for the minimalist "Liberator" produced during WWII to be smuggled into prison camps, and is probably no more reliable.
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dinshino Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
indeed
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annamariea Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
The stupid thing about this- and i'm saying this from a gun owner's point of view!-
He believes in anarchy. He wants 12-year-old kids to be able to download parts of guns off of the internet.
I saw a whole Netflix documentary on this kid. He is literally an anarchist.

The only argument I have on his side: it was only one part of the gun. You'd have to already own the rest of the gun.

But also with that argument: what comes next? The rest of the gun, of course! and if he doesn't create and test the specs for it, someone else will. Some other anarchist will. Honestly, this scares me and makes me sad for the future of America.
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Avolendi Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Read it before and reading it again it's just aggravating how stupid the guy's logic is.

He doesn't care who gets the guns, so a wild guess what kind of people would get these. Those interested would either be criminals or those considered too unstable to own a gun. In places where guns are easy to get, it's not really an interesting alternative, but this does mean that a person in a country or restricted area with the help of basic materials and bullets is able to get a gun where it would otherwise be very difficult and easier to check. So I can very much see this causing problems with the becoming available of this technology.

Even if it was inevitable, it's still sad this is what gets focused on.
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HanakoFairhall Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
Oh god, I read about that one, oye :ohmygod: a weapon would be the last thing I would think of to make with a 3D printer, I'd make stuff like Props and Masks and cosplay stuff (if I were a competent modeler, wish a 3D Printer could work with Photoshop with good drawing)
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Master-is-Recharged Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
It's so awful.
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HanakoFairhall Featured By Owner May 8, 2013
I know right? Nothing is sacred o-o
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Master-is-Recharged Featured By Owner May 9, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
What I can't believe is how this is legal because it isnt a fully automated shotgun something. That thing can still kill people. If a person's life is at risk anyhow, it should be banned.

How does this idea even COME to people? Are they reallt THAT violent?
The only things I've seen printed were a nyan cat, a checkers case, and a name.
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Soliarum Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Student General Artist
"If a person's life is at risk anyhow, it should be banned."

I'm not trying to sound mean here, but that is a very...bad argument. Anything can prove to be an effective weapon for murder, or a fatal accident. People have died in accidents because of vending machines and kites. Actually, fatal accidents involving the two happen annually

So with that argument, you might as well ban every single thing in existence, even people.
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Master-is-Recharged Featured By Owner May 10, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Ok then.
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HanakoFairhall Featured By Owner May 9, 2013
I know, right? I don't want just anyone to get a gun o_o


well, I've thought of using a 3D printer to make props, and I guess a fake gun would come to mind eventually, but even if I did that, it would hardly look like a real gun, closest thing I'd do is a Star Trek Phaser, but in all seriousness the first thing I'd want to make with a 3D Printer are one of Sonic's Magic rings and paint it up to look like one (hopefully the printer would make it solid and give it some weight and not make it hollow or something) you know, Video game props
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GwennPhantom Featured By Owner May 8, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
today's newspaper talked about that LOL (and i live in mexico)
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