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Is FarCry 3 a game where you get a penalty if you nick someone's stuff?
Why, then, aren't item's collected on contact?
Why do I have to press a button each time I want to pick something up?
Why do I have to press AND HOLD a button each time I want to pick something up?
Why, in a game, where collecting items is a key part of gameplay, is it so damn hard to get the crosshair to register contact with said item, despite being right on top of it?

I get asked occasionally (well, I think "challenged" is more the word) by some people (snide idiots) if there are any games I do enjoy. Yes, there are many. Too many to list, in fact, so I shall simply summarise:
I enjoy games in which you lose yourself. Games that absorb you into the world on screen. This does not mean the game is some deeply written RPG epic, it just means that you forget you're playing it and feel more like you're living it, be it a simple 2D platformer or fast and furious 3D beat-em-up.
If you have to wrestle with a poorly designed control method, and if that control method stifles your progress through the game, that doesn't happen.
Ubisoft are very, very good at making these kinds of games (See; The entire AssCreed series. Phenomenally pretty, but painful to play), games that require a real battle of attrition to see to the end, if at all.
Those games, I hate, and they seem to show up more and more these days.

Oh, and, lightning quick review of FarCry 3: It's a contemporary-set, 1st person version of Red Dead Redemption, with all the interesting characters replaced by whiney rich kids.
  • Listening to: Booming Orchestral Scores
  • Reading: Assorted comics.
  • Watching: TV
  • Playing: Far Cry 3
  • Eating: Pasta
  • Drinking: Water.
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Cyratis Featured By Owner Nov 4, 2015
I'm pretty sure the only reason you don't like FC3 is because it's made by Ubisoft, which apparently is reason enough nowadays.... 
fake-magical-girl Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
ChristyKitsune Featured By Owner Dec 15, 2012
I enjoyed Far Cry 3, I finished it tonight and it always kept me entertained.
DFX2K9 Featured By Owner Dec 13, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree, bad controls, more then any other single thing, will ruin a game. I've got hordes of them on steam where controls are glitchy, and I stop enjoying them. Dead Island was, personally, one of those games. Assassin's Creed, oddly enough, has only a few times made me want to rip out my spine and beat the TV with it. The ONLY time I have anything at all going wrong with the controls, is the context camera coming in at the WORST time. HAWX was another game where it works like a dream most of the time, but get it on a bad day... The game has the most insufferable controls (by design) is A10-c Warthog. it is made for the $400 joystick they sell for the game. But I knew that going in, so it's fun just to successfully obliterate a tank.

The game that most seems to go out of it's way just to be annoying for being annoying sake, however, is Velvet assassin.
cavalier-renegade Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Have you played Borderlands 2 yet? It has a pretty good loot mechanism
geminilaser Featured By Owner Dec 12, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
In real life when you walk on a gun you don't pick it up automatically. You have to crawl and pick it with your hands. So they wanted to make game realistic I guess. Same thing was also in Crysis. I didn't play the game tough I don't wanna talk more.
I agree with You, on a number of points, especially, that you be able to immerse Yourself in a Game, be it a simple side-scroller, or, one that uses more computer power, than what put Man, as a species, into orbit, and, into Space! I love Ms. Pacman, simple as it is, because, even though you can learn the principle in a very few tries, mainly, you get better, simply, sometimes, just by reacting!
Monarch-of-the-Fen Featured By Owner Dec 11, 2012
If you want a game that manages simple and awesome and pretty all at once, try Fly'n. God damn but I'm addicted to that right now.
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WinterWolfe6 Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Student Artist
I like the custom feel of a game where you feel the character is more you because you choose their skills, powers, or abilities… By the way, pasta is awesome.
Hibbe Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
Whiny rich kids you say? Sounds like JUST my bag!
theroyalscouter Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Dude sorry I couldn't get into Assasins Creed its just not that amazing. When you can't speak with nobody. When all I do is run around with not much into it but, hey I'm amazing at running over rooftops. That a city has 11 billion blind sentries on the roofs. Or that people forget how a master assassin looks so easily as to forget you after tearing 3 wanted posters off the walls. Even after I just murdered 5 different important political figures and like 200 cityguards. Is fine to be picky but man Ubisoft is an evil corporation and Assassin's Creed ain't that immersive. But sure that doesn't matter you have the last word and I don't care if I don't ever see the end of it (see what I did there).
NotBlondieNoMore Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I really love your summarization/ review!! I lol'ed xD that was just funny!!! XD
AngelsKarith Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012
I agree on the far cry 3 review and the controls I like the ACreed series but the controls can be a major pain
Zeikier Featured By Owner Dec 10, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I played Wrestle Jump on Kongregate tonight. I gotta tell you I was quite immersed by that game, tumbling and fighting for dear life not to get my own head bopped. Battles were grand against my opponents, within arms reach to smack, but resisting the urge lest I break my attachment to the fierce battle being waged before my eyes.
badcop69 Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
it has bad mechanics I agree. thus I while I do enjoy the game on some levels I cannot disagree with what's said here. if you are taken out of the emersion because simply game play mechanics where thrown out the window then I don't know. thought I will say you do collect ammo by touching it. so there is that. but like money...why wouldn't I take money. also,one of the best things about the game is also the worst. nothing like having a good sniping oppertunity ruined by a sudden bear....again. I mean seriously what the fuck is up with the design on this.

that said however I do still find aways to have fun with the game. that said as well however I'd never recomend buying it merely rent it till the novelty wears off.
BlueShadesComics Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Student General Artist
I'm going to use this as an excuse to not buy this game.
oneuglybunny Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
I hear this. Hell, even id's DOOM had auto-collect, and how old that?

I suspect planned obsolescence here. The more you mash the buttons, the faster your controller will need to be replaced. And while they're at it, hawk the upgrade version ad nauseum. :no:
Wabefuhon Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
I did some research, and if you have any plans on playing Crysis 3, buy it for the console or make sure your video card has shaders 5.0 (Pixel and vertical). Otherwise you'll be spending money on upgrades. To find out if your system can do this, go to any search engine, search "can you run it", and click the link that says exactly what you put. This does a little installing, but this will tell you what your system has. You can look up most games, but it comes handy for getting a more in depth description of your system.
JohnDoeHanibari Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
ConnorCat Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
This is the very reason why I loathed the game Uncharted: Drake's Fortune. It still aggravates me how overwhelmingly positive the reviews for that game are and there were times while I was literally working through the game where I wondered if the developers of that game and other developers maybe make a habit of buying off major reviewers and such.

As for Far Cry 3, I really didn't see any appeal in it. I also hated the trailer and didn't see anything fun in it because it's just a wannabe sociopathic philosopher spouting nonsense.
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I call bullshit, Jackson. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you've only ever played the first one, yes? Well I can say without a doubt that AC 1 is the black sheep of the family in terms of gameplay and story. It's subsequent sequel, AC 2 improved on all it's flaws significantly. AC: Brotherhood (sort of like a part two of AC 2) excels even more. I urge you to give the Creed series another try if you haven't already.
jollyjack Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
No, I've played up to Revelation, and doing anything at speed is still a chore due to the terrible controls/camera.
Climbing a ladder, for example. Ezio either runs right past it or ends up on the wrong side while climbing.
The only reason I bothered getting that far in the series is because 1) it's pretty and 2) I had a passing curiosity in the story.
As I've not bothered to complete Revelation, I guess I don't give a rat's arse about either anymore.....
Phantasim-Fan Featured By Owner Dec 9, 2012
Well, alright. I just assumed since you gave the original an unfavorable review in "How to Play.." that you wouldn't have played it's sequels. I meanwhile, have very little issue with how the game is played. Sure there are bugs, but I've really never been too bothered.
Conrad-Dakarn Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I hear you on that one. Many a game has been banished to the 2nd hand self of my local stores because I simply couldn't play them without getting annoyed at the control system or something else which ruined the immersion of the game and made it impossible to ignore the faults and actually enjoy it.
And yes, this has been happening far too often in too many games recently. Not just with gameplay but with graphics bugs and even with the actual plot of the game.
Enslaved is a game I picked up recently and found myself getting lost in...until the end where it all fell apart. The careful and clever plot which had been built suddenly made no sense because of the end of the game and I found myself suddenly disgusted by a game which, up until the end FMV, I'd really enjoyed....Just the same way you can love a movie all the way and then have the stupidest ending which makes you never want to watch the movie again...just because of the end.
I've also watched a friend playing AC3 recently and found myself in a serious annoyance at the sheer volume of graphical bugs. Guards who're on your character's shoulder passing through your robes or clothing, rifles half stuck in the ground or hovering or the classic guard's head/arm/leg vanishing into box/wall/ground. This kind of bug is simply unacceptable in a modern game. They're called clipping plains and even the oldest games had them solved.
A game which never let me down...Quake 2. This was a game released in 1997 for the PC. There's map building editors etc for it which let you see how the levels are put together and one of the major aspects that you have to work with it clipping plains. How can a game that's 15 years old have better programming to stop one object passing through another than one produced today?
Lets not forget the classic annoyances of loading times/screens/game pauses. While I agree a game needs to load, you shouldn't need to sit watching a loading screen for 2-3 minutes for 20 minutes of gameplay before having to wait again. You also shouldn't have to sit and wait in the middle of a level while it loads the next piece...this is usually cleverly hidden but quite often you can see the graphics rendering as you play (GTA and Borderlands are guilty of this)...and sometimes you're sat with a blatant pause of a few seconds while a door opens due to the game loading the next room and deleting the last.
I'm not sure if it's just me, but there is one major annoyance I'm finding in modern games and that's the "pointless in game FMV". I call it pointless because these often cut into the game to give you some plot or important information but they take all you control away. You're still watching the in game just can't do anything. These scenes are usually short but they're also unnecessary when you can consider the fact that the player can either go pick up the object or you can stand and listen to the other person speaking while exploring a room...or just walk away and miss that important plot point were bored or have already played it before. I've noticed these set game play FMV's coming into effect for too often in new releases. Sometimes it feels more like you're just playing for a short bit in order to unlock the next in game movie rather than actually get on with the game....these sequences often break up the rhythm you've got going or have no actual relevance to the larger picture of the plot (meaning they didn't need to be in to start with...Black Ops 2 is guilty of this in my opinion)
Thanks for posting and letting me know that I'm not alone when it comes to annoyances at game programming these days.
jackjumperD3 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I actually just bought mass effect for the first ride thru on my ps3. Itsprettygross damn amazing to me.

The problem with most games, is that they are shit out like a laxative laced gut, by corporate assholes looking to make a quick buck by homogenizing things. Same with most mainstream comics.
SpykeXD Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
Big question: What is your favorite console, handheld, or personal computer (oldies like the ZX line or new ones like the PC plus the Macintosh range) of all time?
The-Quill-Warrior Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
May I ask what is your favourite game? Just curious is all. :)
ADHadh Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Student Filmographer
Do you at least get to shoot the whiney rich kids?
SEMC Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
ahaha! suck it farcry, you sucked way back when the first came out, and you're still sucking now.
BurnOut42 Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
And here I wanted to get Far Cry3. Thanks for saving my time and money)
BadSmoke Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
I almost always agree with all of your opinions regarding the matters you choose to discuss in your journal and in those rare cases that I don't,I acknowledge your thoughts on the matter as different from mine,in light of the fact that we have different points of view,of course.But in this case I strongly disagree.So much so that I feel the need to tell you,if I may, that you're quick to judge.Many iconic games "in which you lose yourself",as you very accurately summarized,like Fallout 3 and Skyrim,for example,are vexed by some such problem or another.I remember my Fallout experience;marred by the fact that,instead of getting lost in the game,I ended up getting lost on my desktop every 30 minutes.To say nothing of Skyrim's numerous glitches.But in spite all of that I endured,because these games are just so damned good.
All I'm saying is give peace a chance.
TK-TehJoker Featured By Owner Dec 8, 2012
Just play with an Xbox controller, if you're playing on PC, it helps a lot, especially in AssCreed!!!
Insane-Randomness Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Writer
I think my favorite is still Skyrim. Simple dumb as a post gameplay. Only issue is the loading screens take too long.

And some of the battles could be a LITTLE more epic.
That and NFS: Carbon is getting better and better as I play. Muscle cars rock.

As for stuperbly good games, we should all just play minecraft. Nothing else will beat it...
El-Quanjugono Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Red Dead? I don't see the similarities. One is about a grizzled ex-outlaw trying to redeem himself and rescue his family and the other is about a sniveling rich kid who goes native to rescue his friends and goes crazy. I guess if you must compare it to a game then saying it's like Red Dead is less cringe-worthy than saying it's like "Skyrim with guns!"

Controls are very weird, no doubt about that :laughing: I remember when I first tried looting a body I couldn't do it until I pointed the reticle away from the body. I just stared at it scratching my head thinking, "How did that get passed play-testing?"

That's the least of my complaints, though. In a list of things that bug me about Farcry 3, the looting mechanics is number 4. Number 1 is the out of place dubstep track :XD: That said, I like this game :)
CKentavr Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
I can understand the click and hold - you're supposed to be disabled while you're doing this, exposed to danger.

The fact that things fall through other things and become difficult to grab? That's just terrible.
leviadragon99 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Mm, guess I won't be getting that one then...
Dachindae Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I work at gamestop and the Farcry 3 thing says "It's like Skyrim with guns!"
Yeah... if it's like Skyrim, give me some dragons, magic, elves, swords, bow/arrows, armor forged from the hearts of daedra, and cat-people, THEN it will be Skyrim.

AssCreed 3 is beautiful, but there are just so many bugs that make the game almost unbearable. I was going through the treetops, glitched, and got stuck INSIDE a tree. Then Connor wouldn't get out of the focus mode thing and I had to restart. Don't even get me started on that shitty Mayan Ruins DLC. I'd love to play it, but it's just so hard to enjoy playing it with all the bugs.
Dayelyte Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
A great game is a lot like a great book. Once picked up, it's damn hard to put down until you're done.

However, just like the book, simple flaws in the design or story can sink the whole thing quickly. Be it bugs, piss poor controls, bad plot holes, micro-transactions, DLC content a week post game launch, ridiculous DRM requirements, whatever.

A good game will sell itself.
Dah-Art-Yamazaru Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I don't get why people get upset over this. They're video games guys. Everyone has their opinion on em, he has every right to not like a game just like we do. For example: I have a friend who HATES Elder Scrolls because she hate's 3rd person view and the 1st person "looks dumb" to her, but it's one of my favorite game series. It doesn't make me mad at her (shocked maybe..dem graphics) but it is her opinion and she is free to express it how she wants. So stop raging on the guy, it isn't his fault he is human.
Lizardtongue314 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Probably going to get tagged as a snide idiot, but I think they wanted a specific example of something you liked.
TheonknownKLAW Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Student Filmographer
So far the Shooter name has been severly wounded, as much as i like shooters its kinda hard to find good ones in my opinion. Most seem to be all over the 'realism' concept which doesnt fit well for me. I liked Bioshock and played a bit of Borderlands 2 (even though my crap little laptops specs made it lurchy as hell even wiht it on the lowest settings) and enjoyed it, mainly because I finally had a HEALTH BAR. I dunno why most shooters seem to think regenerating health is cool, when its extremely vague in letting you know when you are about to die, going grayscale is not a good indicator!
RabidElf Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
Creating good Game play is a dying art I swear.
Chwen-Hoou Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
I dunno what to add when it comes to games with iffy controls and/or functions, but I think I've got something regarding game critic scores and idiot fans who nerd-rage against those who give less than perfect.

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Yes, there is content on The Escapist site other than Yahtzee. I love him but I can only listen to his venom for so long before I wanna stuff his hat down his throat. IMO, guys like Moviebob and the staff of Extra Credits are a blast to watch without delving in snark-filled rants.
TorkBacklash Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
I thought the game was good. the one thing to make me lose immersion in games is really long load screens. I should not have to keep myself pumped for 2 min after a really sweet event just to keep energy levels.
weaselton Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Bad controls are the one true unforgivable aspect of a game.
jroy101 Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
But who doesn't like beating up Whitney rich kids? :llama:
Devkema Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Hooray for games like Journey.
Tamashikiri Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
I think the whole "no collecting things on contact" BS comes from developers trying to make games more "realistic". I can't speak for anyone else, but personally, I've always hated developers' attempts at realism, because I mainly play video games to get away from reality. Why would I want my games to remind me of a a place where I don't have superpowers and can't ride a dinosaur?
Phantom-Brave Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
No Auto-Looting? Would kill self. xD
MyrkSuki Featured By Owner Dec 7, 2012
Hell I might just put off playing this game until that UI patch.
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