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I follow a lot of insanely talented artists here on DA, people whose work I look at in sheer awe and whose skill I can only dream of one day matching.
Unsurprisingly, that high quality of work leads to them either having their work ripped off or operating in fear of that happening. They, quite rightly, want to protect their art with a watermark, something which I'm not against at all.
What I am against, what I hate, is people using that god-awful DA watermark.
If you are a good artist: don't be a lazy git. Make your own watermark, use your own logo. You'll protect your work without doing it the disservice of having some automatically-generated arse-smear ruining it.

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Red-Wallflower Featured By Owner Jan 16, 2015   Photographer
I use my own logo. 
But sadly, that was not enough to keep people from stealing my work. So I have to slap that god awful watermark that turns a great picture into bat crap temporarily and have the option to remove it and add it again with a single click. 
What I F**king hate though is that it's smack damn in the middle and you cannot change OPACITY!! Should have an option for that.  
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jonaslion52 Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I love the logo
But i have my own.
it's black and whitd thing that has spikes
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Sparky-the-Scraggy Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Shit, not dA logo, I totally meant watermark!!
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Sparky-the-Scraggy Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree.
I am not one of those amazing artists you're talking about, but I have my own signature I use.
It's small, and I usually have it super close to the drawing.
So close you'd have to do a LOT of editing to remove it right ^^;

The dA logo is gross.... lol
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Omnivault Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
Totally agree with this. I've seen many a wonderful picture ruined by these huge, intrusive watermarks. Making your own logo does seem the more practical way to go. I'll suggest this to my friend Alison.
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Cenobite451 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
Fuck yes! I want to endorse this. I want to endorse this SO HARD.

I've tried bringing this up in comments a couple of times (mostly on my old profile), but since I haven't got enough recognition to afford me any real credibility I mostly get brushed off as some git who - at best - "just doesn't understand what artists have to deal with".

THANK YOU for saying this - coming from somebody like you, one or two people might actually take notice. +fav
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Elisavetaawesome12 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Student General Artist
the title just reminded me of barrels
F**KING BARRELS!!!!!
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G-h-i-r-a-h-i-m Featured By Owner Oct 20, 2014
Peeeewwwdiepie
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wholesomewriter32 Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Student General Artist
Well, you see, what about people who have no idea how to SET their own watermark? Because you sounded increasingly rude to me... I use the normal watermark because I don't know how to set a new one.
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Okiamu Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
You draw your own logo/type your username or name, Turn it White or Black (Which ever one you want) Then copy and paste it into the corner of the art. 
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wholesomewriter32 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student General Artist
 Doesn't seem easy when I use FireAlpaca.
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Okiamu Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Does FireAlpaca have layers? ;v;
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wholesomewriter32 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student General Artist
 Yes...But I can't move things easily...
Or copy and paste.
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Okiamu Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
That sucks. ;;

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wholesomewriter32 Featured By Owner Oct 3, 2013  Student General Artist
 yeah....which is why I don't really use watermarks.
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TheImaginautDragon Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I know how annoying it is to use that watermark... I use my own, and sometimes it's visible, sometimes not.
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That-G Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
rite
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Vvlad-vVolfen Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
We'll said. :nod:
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Ptrope Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You just got my vote!
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alphamule Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013
Specify type of watermark: Visible or invisible
Heh, I know you mean visible ones but there's some good ways to hide metadata inside the actual image.
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Ashpyr Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
How is that? :o
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alphamule Featured By Owner Oct 4, 2013
Well the most primitive (and easy to remove) is to just force the lowest bit in each color plane to 0 or 1, depending on your information you want to inject.  Repeating the pattern of bits over and over barely effects the image and makes it resistant to clipping.  However, anyone with Photoshop or even Irfanview, can just use a filter to change those LSb's.  Other watermarking technologies play with the frequency domain (FFT/DCT) and other (often patented) things.  What they all have in common is that it's implementable as a filter.
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Lupinebrother Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Professional Writer
As creative as some people are, coming up with a single symbol that represents you in your work is difficult. I've been trying to do it for my photography and admittedly god-awful drawn work, but I can't seem to come up with something that's not...bleh. Believe me if I had one I'd use it. 

It's not an excuse, so much as an explanation. 
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MarcoAlfaroArts Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Student General Artist
Agreed, and I have been culprid of this myself, though not on purpose, now I try to watermark or in the least sign my picture.
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SukiMitchell Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist

*hangs head in shame*

You are right..those watermarks are butt ugly...my bad...I'll be unlazy and make one of my own...

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childwoman Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Hobbyist Photographer
Hehe. Yes, I know this pet-hate, and share it. My particular favourite, actually, is really mediocre (or even downright crap) art on dA that people feel the need to "protect" with one of those watermarks. Makes something terrible look worse - huzzah!
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ConnorCat Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
Agreed!
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silver6kraid Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Nothing ruins a good work of art quite like that obnoxiously bad watermark dA provides. 
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Sep 30, 2013
I know I've been debating for years on what sort of watermark I should craft and how to add it to my pieces. I really have no idea at all how to use any of the picture editing tools. I can imagine that other artists might have similar problems. I read in the comments though that somebody mentioned that if you hit the download button you get the art without the watermark, which completely defeats the purpose of it in the first place.
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jasonswint Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Professional Photographer
Make sure when you upload your deviations, you unselect the box that offers the original file for download. It is located near the top right-hand side of the submission page.
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
Ah. I don't watermark my stuff. I'm sure some digital porn site is using some of it but as long as I'm not directly aware I don't care... Much... At some point I'll have to figure out a personal watermark and figure out how to use Gimp or something to drop it as a layer. But atm there are more entertaining things to do. ;)
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Birdsatalcatraz Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
You can still right-click and save the art that way, which defeats the whole purpose of offering downloads anyway. 
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DeROSAart Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional General Artist
Hmmm good point...
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POPTART117 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Artist
Yeah. I'm with you on this one. I'm watching a few good artists myself and some of their images are really detailed or colorful, but then they plop that 2x1 inch eyesore and it ruins the experience.
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DustyScarecrow Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I couldn't agree more. :nod:
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Kainudy Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013
A good watermark has the artist's name, url, is semi-transparent or looks like a raised bit of glass over the center of the work (so it can't be cropped out). If it doesn't tell you who drew it, what's the point?
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Hawkfire11111 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
agreed. the only reason i use the da watermark on any of my art is due to the fact that it's usually on the traditionals, or i didn't have the time to put on my personal one.
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Red-Indicator Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Thank you for approving the way I handle my images for years. I also can't stand those watermarks DA offers, but also I have to admit, I do my stuff for fun and do not intend to make any money with it, and even though I would not like others to show that anywhere without giving credit, I take it as a compliment to my work. So I can understand people, who want to make money with their precious works and try to do everything for not even offering a single way of them to be stolen.
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ArrowDel Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Most of the supremely talented artists using that watermark are unpaid memberships like myself and I'm actually rather glad that it's such a large mark as it makes it nearly impossible to erase from the image if it is stolen. I have tried using smaller watermarks before, in fact I tend to hide my signature in my drawings in a shadow area that won't interfere much. I have come across things where I had to call an admin to remove an image because it was mine with those signatures removed. So I'm actually in favor of the "god awful" DA mark and I suspect if I ever pay for membership that the mark I make for myself will be just as large.
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Internet-Cancer Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
You know
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Internet-Cancer Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
ah, fuck my comment randomly deleted itself for no reason.

"You know, some artists I watch put in a hidden signature that's nearly invisible"
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kayumitchi Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Student General Artist
I use the DA one for wips, if I need one for the finished, I just make a quick one in photoshop (ノ◕ヮ◕)ノ*:・゚✧
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FuzzySpider Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional Filmographer
I use my own plus the Da one..!  its a shame that people do rip off the work.!
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Damn right!
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Apple303 Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I used the DA watermark for quite a while because I couldn't for the life of me make a decent watermark that I like. Even now I'm just using a crappy small one that I tend to put in annoying places on the picture out of fear of it being stolen. I also used the DA one for a while because I didn't think my work was even good enough for anyone to deem worthy of stealing... 

Apparently that was wrong but overall I can understand the use of the DA watermark, there's only a few pictures I've seen that are actually really ruined by the watermark.
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
After sleeping on it, I would like to add to my original comment because, as it has been noted by other commentors already, watermarks and signatures are easily removed. EASILY. Only the truly stupid, lazy and ignorant won't remove one correctly due to failure to Google it. Paint can do it for crying out loud.

I actually stopped using watermarks and created myself a signature for my art and put that on there where it is easily visible plus copyright information. That way when I prove they stole my work, I can prove they knew it was copyrighted to me. I also keep all digital files in their layered state as proof that they are mine, because when push comes to shove (and it has for me and a couple artists I know personally), you HAVE TO PROVE the art is yours. Why? Because any moron can remove a watermark and add their own.

And any idiot can change the meta data nowadays too (isn't the internet great?). All any of this does is deter theft though because some people will just take your stuff and leave your information on it and claim it is theirs anyways :/

So...
1. Keep all your original files no matter what medium you work in.
2. Don't destroy your work unecessarily with a crap watermark or signature. But do put one on that is tasteful and professional.
3. Never upload the full sized file (and if you do, put a border on it because that will be so much harder to remove or color over correctly - and a simple white or black border won't necessarily detract from a work if you don't make it too thick or obnoxious).
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Sciphan Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013
How is a simple white or black border not easily removed?
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iLantiis Featured By Owner Oct 2, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Crop.

Also, PS CS 5 and 6 have a smart filter that can recreate parts of the image with the surrounding image and make it look real. While it won't be the same as the original, it won't look fake and is really really easy to use and master. (also how removing watermarks and sigs is so simple among other things)

It would seriously take me less than a few minutes to remove a watermark, sig AND border from someone's artwork and replace with my own (I have tried it on my own work before). Seriously, laziness is all that stops people from doing it.
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Andaelentari Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
I wasn't going to watermark my stuff. . . until I found it on 25+ other sites multiple times.  Even if its removed, it's better than not having one at all and just making it easy ><.
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Monele Featured By Owner Sep 29, 2013  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think this deserves a watermark making tutorial, woop! :D Maybe you should link to good ones in this journal!
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