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Picked up a cheapo copy of Skyrim today. First impressions: this game is so inside the box, it's inside a smaller box.
Tolkien was, undeniably, a genius, but, for the love of creativity and dynamism; read another f**king book, people.
There's a world of culture, history and myth out there to seek inspiration from! Fantasy should be an exciting, twisted reflection of the world around us, not an endless stream of pirated Lord of the Rings DVDs.
  • Listening to: Booming Orchestral Scores
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  • Watching: Sucker Punch (Goes well with take-out!)
  • Playing: Skyrim
  • Eating: Take out
  • Drinking: Water
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WickedPrince Featured By Owner May 9, 2012
Thanks for giving me a counter to everyone who is drooling over this game. I understand the graphics are awesome, and that's cool when one looks at the crappy graphics of such popular franchises as WoW, but even the intro story to the game lacks any luster. DragonAge: Origins at least built you UP to being a dragonslayer. :P
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Eightshot Featured By Owner Apr 27, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
leave him alone people, its that time of the month :D
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YamaTheSpaceFish Featured By Owner Apr 21, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm going to say the same thing about you that M. John Harrison said about Salman Rushdie.

"I would never quote Jollyjack, but even he can't be wrong all the time.

but, for the love of creativity and dynamism; read another f**king book, people."
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Oracle-of-RavenJay Featured By Owner Apr 16, 2012
I really hate how repetitive it is. every quest seems the same to me, and each really had no point. liked oblivion way better.
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DoctorFruitbat Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2012
I do agree to a point, but at the same time I appreciate that they've tried to create a somewhat realistic world with relatively sensible physics (their own crap engine notwithstanding). The dragons especially are sensibly designed, with big chests for the flight muscles but light, lithe frames to keep them airborne.

If I have a major complaint, it's that each playable species has the same basic body type and animations; there should have been digitigrade joints for the Argonians and Khajiit, big, stompy gaits for the orcs, confident, arrogant poses for the high elves, etc. I'm fine with the style they went for, but they got seriously lazy with the player animations.
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fiern Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012
sorry sir i do not agree. u may be right in the lotr referenceing. (even though i havent had a chance to find solemon and kick him in the nuts) there is a depth in the skyrym in the fact that u can pretty much do whatever u like. its not linier in the way most games are. id love to play a lotr sandbox game like skyrym and get a real chance at sodomizing solemon!
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SquirrelDash Featured By Owner May 23, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I'd be more inclined to listen to you if you could spell and use proper grammar.
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xXMoodyXx Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2012
Skyrim is an amazing game. Its full of quests and fun stuff to do.
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thelostdigger Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
Skyrim seems generic at first glance, but there's a fair bit of depth in it if you continue.

For example; Dragons are (minor spoiler) reality warping demigods who's "breath" is actually them imposing what they say on reality.

Thalmar (High Elves) are basically the Third Reich, but with elves. They actually plan to not only remove non-elven races from existence, but fix it so they never existed at all.

Titus Mede III is a kind and noble but incompetant ruler, making the Stormcloaks believe he is malicious (never attribute to malice that which can be explained by stupidity)

The Dark Brotherhood are far less evil in this, with most, if not all, of the targets being engaged in some morally questionable activity (except for that Orsimer [Orc] Bard, who just plain sucks at his job so much people want him dead).

Ulfric Stormcloak is a Hitler analogy (Racist, believes in Aryan superiority, forces all the Dunmer [who are the closest thing this setting has to Jews] live in sectioned off camps, fought in the Great War, sets out to conquer what he believes rightfully belongs to Skyrim [a Germanic state], et. etc.)

Anything involving the Dunmer you can guarantee to be well written, with the Dunmer priest Erandur being one of the most potent followers in the game.

Parthurnax is pure, unadulterated awesome. He just is.

The thieves guild has a very "underground crime family" feel that is really well done.

Sheogorath, god of madness, only appears for one optional quest in the city of Solitude, but it is by far this players favourite quest, being a sort of magically induced dream sequence. It involves Sheogorath, who seems to have grown a conscience between Oblivion and Skyrim, agreeing to cut his "vacation" inside the mind of the long dead Emperor Pelaius the Mad if the player agrees to cure Pelagius' madness and let him find peace. In return, Sheogorath gives you the Wabbajack, the best weapon in the game, as a token of his esteem. And to see what you do with it.

The game starts off slow, but please, Jollyjack, take your time, it gets enourmously better.
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thelostdigger Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
*sorry, Aldmeri Dominion, the High Elf ruling class are Nazis, the Thalmar is just another name for their race.

Oh, and the Dwarves are about as far from Tolkein as you can get.

Really, the point I'm trying to make is that the game looks like a rippoff at first glance, but if you keep playing for just a few more minutes, you can see the amazingly detailed and original world.
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Crossforge Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
I can understand if the game doesn't thrill you. It's not for everyone. But a LOTR knockoff? Hardly.

High Fantasy cliche? You could argue that, though I could argue different. Norse by any other name? Definitely (which is where Tolkien took a lot of his own inspiration.) But no, its quite different from LOTR.

The orcs are not an army, a horde, or, for that matter, evil (nothing in this game is entirely good.) The Dwarves are either dead or have disappeared, done in by their own steampunk, and they don't look anything like the ones from Tolkien fare. And while the game does have elves, the Elven Aldmeri Dominion is most definitely very much NOT the good guys.

And while the game does have dragons, Tolkien books only had one prominently featured dragon in it, LOTR wasn't exactly dragon happy outside of the hobbit, sure they TALKED about dragons, but that is about it.

About the only thing LOTR looking is the artistic design, which again was borrowed heavily from Norse designs to begin with. And even then it's less LOTR looking then Oblivion. With Bethesda reverting back to the Imperial designs seen in Morrowind. Sure the high elves look LOTR, but that's about all they have in common with their Middle Earth kin.
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Ariusdural Featured By Owner Apr 6, 2012
Finally someone that understands me...
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BasicRowan Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
GOD! AMEN!
I mean, "The Lord of the Rings" is excellent, don't get me wrong, but there's so much more to fantasy. Hell, there's more to mythology.
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Nomytaker Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
What would you add to the game? List at least 10 things.
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njsaberman Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
Skyrim was a great game that was very in depth. It has an almost unlimited amount of quests you can do. It was a lot of fun
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boolean22 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
I personally liked it, but then again liked Oblivion much more. I think Oblivion was a bit more original, the setting being broader and the ambient full of variations.

The permanent winter of Skyrim made it look to me much more like Song of Fire and Ice, rather than LOTR. Also, the Dwarven being called a kind of elvish sub-race and long gone with all that steam-machinery gives the whole underground Skyrim a new dimension.

My advice? Play it a while and advance not only thru the main storyline but also try to do some sidequests. There's more than meets the eye.
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Ironghast Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
I've heard great things about the user generated content improving on the original model.
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ShawnLeroy Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
AMEN!
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TheSUNGlassKid Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Photographer
You've been in a tizzy the last few days. Aren't you excited for anything?
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Apr 9, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Few days? Try months!
If a sequel is similar to it's prequel, he bitches about it.

If a sequel is different from it's prequel, he bitches about it.
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KlokwerkSolja Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
I hear you. Its why I loved Bastion. Fantasy steam punk industrial but not nearly so obvious as Tolkien.
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SherbertTCat Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
$5 or 10 quid says that he'll complain if the next Fallout game is a retro-future based post-apocalyptic scenario.

He'll also complain if Doctor Who is still using the Tardis in the new season.
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The-Seacow Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Filmographer
Didn't enjoy it. End of discussion.
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MovingTarget11 Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
The weakest part of the game was the story in my opinion. The gameplay and exploration were top notch, however. Minus the occasional game-breaking bug lol.
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MightyMoose Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Professional Digital Artist
LOL!
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Letrune Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012
First of all: not played Skyrim, but I am a lover of Morrowind and the role of the Elder Scrolls' world.

Elder Scrolls got a cultural history a bit as Tolkien magnum ops does... And less a copy than many of the other, well-known worlds, as it has it's own twists... But sadly, these are often too hidden from the players that they don't find out that orcs in game are in fact a fraction of elves, that the "noble" elves are more commonly a band of bandits and that most of the world has a way too serious sense of being medieval and cruel.

So in my opinion your first impression might be a gentle bit wrong but not by yours fault - things are rather such in-game. :/ I am myself feel worse that people still connected to the "girls have to got different armours that are sexy"... So I guess we all got impressions that are rather sour. :/
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boolean22 Featured By Owner Apr 3, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
Girls gotta be sexxaaayyy alright. Otherwise, they'd look as if you took a girl head and put it in a male torso. xD
BTW, totally feel you about the elves being a pain in the arse. All they do is to try to vanquish men kingdoms. Dunmer, Altmer, Dwemer, those darwen bastards.
I enjoyed the Oblivion chapter a tad more, with the Aleyds (or whatever) being this kind of magical masterminds that built those soulgem-packed catcombs.
Hadn't play the older ones (Morrowind is looking interesting) but I could tell already that each portion of land has its past buried 6 feet under (Aleydis in Tamriel, Dwemer under Skyrim)
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Letrune Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
On ladies: okay, that IS right. :P I mean often that the armour changes in a way that is often ridiculous... Like, give a steel plate to a lady and to a man, and compare the two.

Of course they buried themselves, almost all races harassed the Dwemer since the First Era, so they gone down. What is the worst they can find underground, lot of Nord burial chambers? :D

I also can understand the elves, the Imperials made them to throw away their own gods (they got a bit of different gods) and that Tiber Septim, the first emperor of Tamriel, was a really, really nasty guy in their terms... Like, saying that orcs, the most-disgusting race of mer is in fact, one of the finest ones in all of Tamriel, and giving them safety? This made a lot of mer (and men) hate him, but he had a few thousand troops to beat theam. :P Well, according the legends inside the game's world.
Okay, the fact is that everyone hates at least one race out for no real reason...

On the game: Skyrim itself is a good game itself? (Of course I will mod it to be better, but I am curious. :D)
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boolean22 Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
I enjoyed it. It resorts to the 'Chosen One' mantra once again. The added abilities looked a tad plugged in at first but during the story you start to incorporate them. The wizards are more powerful than in Oblivion, so I could actually make a nice War-Mage and ended up being a pure wizard. Managed to extend my abilities a lot more, in both short and long range combat.
School of Destruction and Alteration.
I also developed armory and managed to enchant a few powerful coats. But once you get to some point in your 'Magic Training' and some Scholars start to appreciate you, you get lots of bonuses from tunics that allow for fast Maná replenishment and low cost casting.
Fighting dragons is a blast. It's epic every time.
I recommend it. Every time the characters spoke of the 'Oblivion crisis' made me tremble with nostalgia.
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Letrune Featured By Owner Apr 4, 2012
Well, there is still the chance to say that I am a self-willed hero and the whole prophecy stuff is just coincidence? :D
I am curious if I should buy the game myself. :)
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boolean22 Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012  Professional Interface Designer
You cannot escape destiny, as much as Mario can't escape fightin' Koopa. Thing is, you can choose how to get there, and there are some factions that pull from you like madmen, and ask you to do things that you may or may not be comfortable with to gain their trust (Elder Scrolls + Bethesda classic right and wrong scenario). The new thing about it is that even people which you consider 'good' have some twisted agenda themselves... so it's not that black and white if you know what I mean.
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Letrune Featured By Owner Apr 5, 2012
I know it since Morrowind. :D The "good daedra" are the most straightforward people, so you can guess how nice the others...
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SeiichiSin Featured By Owner Apr 2, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
Yeah, many people have that experience with fantasy games now a days. Honestly, I'm not sure any fantasy games want to break the mold that LOTR made. But one day, one will, hopefully...
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Lizardtongue314 Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
it does seem a tad sandboxy...


*realizes theme of day* litterboxy?
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roolsilver Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
I disagree, but if you're referencing Tolkien that's not LoTR or Lost Tales, I'm not very familiar with that. I agree that Elder Scrolls is set in a similar type of world, but so are 90% of fantasy-based video games. It's what people buy. I'm not saying it should be our only option, but you have to market to the masses, and the masses are fairly narrow-minded.
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lashingTengu Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012
actually a large portion of the game was based on irish myths, the drauger crypts were loosely based on burial mounds.
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petrino Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
one word dood

MODification.
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Mrmonkeyalsodraws Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
Also.... What happened to your website?? Trying to get out of doing more SA?
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Mrmonkeyalsodraws Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Professional General Artist
I agree but it's set in a continual world. It would be pretty hard to change it all now
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petrino Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
i thought they did... dragons, marriage, falmer, and when could you actually fight the empire and not have them go calling you criminal scum?
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WesleyRiot Featured By Owner Apr 1, 2012  Professional Filmographer
lol i love it
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patientbear Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
Ya know, I'm not in any way shape or form a fanboy of the Elder Scrolls series, and I'm usually quite entertained by your journal updates, but you've kinda let me down on this one, Jack. I can understand if you didn't like the game for a real flaw (like the bugs x_x oh god the bugs...), but I don't know that I really agree with your assessment of it
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Gaia-o-spades Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
And the last time you mentioned this game, you said you didn't want the game because were sick of castles. It's the fucking Elder Scrolls! If you bought the game hoping that this would be the one WITHOUT elves and orcs and castles, you quite simply entered the game with incredibly unrealistic expectations. In other words, you went in hoping it would be something you could proclaim your dislike for on the internet.

I could respect you disliking the gameplay, but you've come out here claiming the game sucks because it sticks with the setting it's established over the course of 5 games and several platforms! It leads me to believe you're just hating on that to be cool and edgy instead of criticizing the game for something that's actually a flaw.
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offyerrocker Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I think there's only two reasons for you specifically to get Skyrim:
1. Thinking with portals and Console.
2. Mods.
3. Using 1 and 2 to go on massive killing sprees.
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Jonboy2312 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
"There's a world of culture, history and myth out there to seek inspiration from!"

...and that's precisely what they did, you know. Skyrim is built around actual Norse mythology and the in-game world's style of architecture and armor is based on real-life Vikings. City guards wearing Vendel-style helmets and whatnot.

Nothing in it is in any way ripped off from LOTR, if that's what you were trying to say?
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tigerfangart Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
Creativity is not nearly as marketable as tried-and-true stuff that already exists.
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grayhowler10 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
i don't see how you anyone can fault a game of this magnitude for not having completely perfect details. if you want a visually perfect game go play uncharted 2 for like 6 hrs. if you want a game that is boundlessly fun and full of adventure that puts you in the midst of something previously only found in books play skyrim. its a great game not a perfect game and it never claimed to be the next game of thrones story.
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Greedywoozle Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
There is a TON of lore in this game. Dozens and dozens of books and a rich backstory stretching back six more games and centuries of lovingly detailed history. Just because it's strongly Western-themed doesn't make it trite. If you explore the lore a bit you'll find the argonians, khajiit, and some flavors of elf have interesting and detailed racial backgrounds and personalities. Yes, it's set in Viking Land, but that's just the setting for this one. The next one might be (but probably won't be) in the khajiiti country, or the land of the evil nazi elves.
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k-a-y-dee6678 Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012
I also felt a "Game of Thrones" vibe from the game.
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DragonCount Featured By Owner Mar 31, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
I think Skyrim's brilliant. Sure it's not the best game out there but it is one of such games. Aside from the world designs and such, I didn't really see anything Tolkien about it. All things considered, everything in fantasy has pretty much been done, so it's pretty expected to use the usual formula time and time again.
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